Showing posts with label montebello. Show all posts
Showing posts with label montebello. Show all posts

Wednesday, October 10, 2007

SPP and the EPA : Pesticides and jelly beans

Remember that whole business about Canada lowering standards on pesticide use on fruits and vegetables to match U.S. regs because the U.S. found Canada's 40% more stringent pesticide regs to be "a trade irritant"?
Sure you do :
"Richard Aucoin, chief registrar of the Pest Management Regulatory Agency, which sets Canada's pesticide rules said "It's just common sense for Canada to work most closely with its largest and nearest trading partner".
Besides, in practice, the question of official residue limits is moot in most cases because farmers are using fewer and fewer pesticides, he said."

LA Times :
"Despite the protests of more than 50 scientists, including five Nobel laureates in chemistry, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency on Friday approved use of a new, highly toxic fumigant, mainly for strawberry fields.
Methyl iodide is a neurotoxin and carcinogen that has caused thyroid tumors, neurological damage and miscarriages in lab animals.
Methyl iodide will be manufactured by Tokyo-based Arysta LifeScience Corp. and marketed under the name Midas. Its use will be allowed on fields growing strawberries, tomatoes, peppers, ornamentals, turf, trees and vines."
EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson is a Bush appointee.
Arysta's former chief executive, Elin Miller, is now a top official at the EPA.

I repeat : Why is it still called the Environmental Protection Agency?
Scientists have been quitting in droves over its cosy ties with industry.

And about that research on "lab animals".
Several years ago progressive US blogs were up in arms about a jointly-funded project by the EPA and a pesticide lobby group which offered poor families in Florida $970 and a camcorder to spray the inside of their homes, including childrens' bedrooms, with a pesticide once a day for two years and monitor the results with the free camcorder.
In 2000, Lockheed Martin paid volunteers in California $1000 to ingest toxic chemicals and pesticides under observation.
Shagya now has a vid up of Senator Barbara Boxer detailing these experiments. She points out they do not meet the Nuremburg Code forbidding the testing of "non-therapeutics" or poisons on human beings.

EPA : "Experiments on People just like at Auschwitz!"

One of the objectives of Montebello was to enhance the so-called 'smart regulation' : "undertaking trilateral cooperation to accelerate and strengthen our national and regional risk-based chemical assessment and management efforts."

From the U.S. government's SPP website : "Regulatory Cooperation in the Area of Chemicals." Objective :"enhanced coordination of chemical assessment and management programs across North America."

Stephen Harper, responding to critics of regulatory harmonization following Montebello :
"Is the sovereignty of Canada going to fall apart if we standardize the jellybean. I don’t think so."

A very good article from the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives detailing how harmonizing with the EPA would allow US chemical industries to target Canadian safety regulations :
More Than Jellybeans: The SPP Regulatory Framework Agreement and Its Impact on Chemicals Regulation

Cross-posted at Creekside

Monday, August 27, 2007

Hiring protesters?


Who's hiring protesters? I'll just borrow this little bit of transcript from matttbastard.
Conservatives "work for the well-being of people that work hard, and have no time to protest and who don’t have the time to protest, or have the money to hire protesters."
Mr. Harper, who are you accusing? In recent memory, the only people who we can clearly identify as being on a payroll to perform as "protesters for hire" were members of the Surete du Quebec.

Credit to skdadl commenting at Bread and Roses.

Thursday, August 23, 2007

They were cops


Via Buckdog, the CBC files this:
Quebec provincial police admitted Thursday that their officers disguised themselves as demonstrators during the protest at the North American leaders summit in Montebello.

However, the police force denied allegations its undercover officers were there on Monday to provoke the crowd and instigate violence.

OK. But evidently, at least one of them was a rock collector. And Surete du Quebec lied once already. There's no reason to believe them now.

Wednesday, August 22, 2007

Were they police, or police agents? UPDATED

Well, there is certainly enough evidence to suggest so. You think not? Think again.

This photo, shamelessly robbed from the digital pages of Canadian Cynic, would suggest that the boots worn by both the officers of Surete de Quebec and the three "protesters" in question, are the same.
Yes, the little yellow tabs tell something of a story and, in fact, drew attention to something amiss. However, that tab is the trademark of Vibram®, a boot and shoe sole manufacturer. I have three different pairs of boots with that same little yellow tag on the sole - except that they appear on each sole at a different angle. Not so the tags in the picture.

What is telling is that the boots are the same. Same tread, same pattern. That is an amazing coincidence and any cop will tell you that kind of coincidence, when investigating any incident, is highly suspicious.
So, let's call that bit of circumstantial evidence the first reason to suggest there was a relationship between the uniformed police and the rock-wielding protesters.

The second thing that shows, from the video, can be broken into several parts, but we'll deal with two first.

When a member of an organization, (and I'll go to my own armed service experience here), is in a threatening situation and knows where the protection of his/her own organization is located, that is always the direction in which that person will move. It's a natural reaction. Even in the services where some people receive extensive training in "escape and evasion", the overriding factor is to safely find a way to get back to your own lines. There is no safety in putting more distance between yourself and the protection of your own kind.

From the time David Coles fingered the three as "cops", they started to move, not away from the Surete police line, but towards it. If the three had been legitimate protesters, being labeled a "cop" should have caused them to withdraw in the other direction - towards wherever their compatriots were gathered. And there would have been compatriots somewhere, even if it was people they had met only a short time before the protest started. These three protesters, carrying rocks, with faces masked, moved in the wrong direction.

The second thing that is telling is this:
The RCMP has refused to comment, while Quebec provincial police have flatly denied that its officers were involved in the incident.
But they were involved. They took these three guys into custody! The denial was made too quickly and without contemplating the entire incident. The RCMP refusal to comment is thundering. Not all that long ago a relative of mine in the media relations business (a.k.a. spin doctor) told me that when questioned, "no comment" or "refused to comment" meant one thing - there was something of substance on which not to comment. RCMP public communications officers are well-trained enough to know how such a response sets up further questions. They're cops. They know a suspect under questioning who does not respond to inquiries is hiding something.

Circumstantial evidence items two and three.

Back to the actions of the three "protesters" and the Surete de Quebec police who took them into custody. Considering the state of the protest line in which the "three" drifted into, they would have presented an elevated threat to the police line facing. The other protesters were bare-faced, unarmed, perhaps a bit noisy, but otherwise presenting no particular physical threat to the police officers tasked with preventing the protest from moving. David Coles, in fact, seemed intent on keeping the protest orderly.

Then three masked, rock-carrying individuals showed up. Under any other circumstance, those three would have been considered a risk to the safety of the police on the line and perhaps the other non-violent protesters. Ignoring for a moment that these three moved themselves into the police line, consider the actions of the Surete officers and the so-called protesters from that point.

The police took them to the ground, cuffed them with cable ties, stood them up, left one of them masked and marched them off to a police detention van. All without a struggle! JesusHchrist on a popsicle stick! That has to be the easiest take-down in protest history.

When I did riot-control training, our "mock protesters" were normally other service personnel from another training course. They used to kick, bite and scratch and occasionally leave some hapless guy laying on the ground in the fetal position holding his crotch.

These three "protesters", intent on hiding their faces, carrying rocks, in rather good physical condition, who would have presented a physical threat and could be expected to put up a fight, suddenly became acquiescent and compliant. In fact, the police didn't even use the one immobilizing move which is standard in the case of a possible violent suspect - a knee in the middle of the back. In fact, at one point a "suspect" is laying on his side with one of the policemen exposed to a knee in the groin and nothing happened. The switch from masked, armed, potential rioter to law abiding, compliant arrestee is nothing short of amazing.

That's why Doug Kirkland doesn't believe they were bona fide protesters either.

And can all this circumstantial evidence make a case? Absolutely.

By way of example consider that you step outside in the early morning and notice that the streets are wet and most cars have their windshield wipers on but it's not raining. You can accurately deduce that, despite the fact that it is not raining now, it was raining a short time ago.

The evidence supporting the argument that they were members of a police force or acting on behalf of the police is there.

I would suggest taking a trip over to Dawg's Blawg where he has a list of posts on this subject. Good reading.

Update: This is just one of the reasons why I read Red Tory.

Connecting dots

First Dana produces this. Then Ross produces this. Follow the links back in Ross's posting. It seems there are some questions as to the identity and purpose of some of the protesters at Montebello. Canadian Press has the story here.

It's curious.

Update: Canadian Cynic and Red Tory have more. The question of the "yellow triangles" on the bottom of boots, (police boots matching those of protesters) means nothing. Big City Lib identifies the culprit as a standard brand of outsoles found on many different brands of boots. In fact, I checked the shoe/boot supply here and found the same marking on the bottom of a pair of Columbia® hiking boots and Hi-Tec® hiking boots.

Shot from the sideline: Way back in the day when all of us young fresh-faced baby-servicemen were learning the finer points of "Aid to the civil power", otherwise known as riot control and riot suppression in support of a local police force which found itself outnumbered, I recall an old training film. It was made sometime back in the early 1950s and described the stages of a peaceful protest turning into a violent riot. Now, for what it's worth, it was British-made and was filmed in Malta. There was, throughout the thing, an air of British imperial rule, but that is perhaps beside the point. The point is that even back then, there was a description of the "local constabulary" using "native locals" within the crowd to "monitor" the behaviour and identify "ringleaders".

There's nothing wrong with that. It happens at most protest gatherings. As long as it's just looking and gathering information. However, even back in the days of black and white, there was a line in that movie which actually prompted some immediate questions. "Agents for the police in the crowd may take action in order to conceal their identity from other rioters."

More later.