Showing posts with label parliamentary procedures. Show all posts
Showing posts with label parliamentary procedures. Show all posts

Thursday, June 03, 2010

The Bairds of this world get away with their behaviour....

Because we let them.

John Baird should have been physically removed from the committee room when it became apparent that his sole purpose was to disrupt the sitting committee.

There was no descent into chaos. Baird had every intention of disabling the work of a parliamentary committee. The push back was called for.

Keep in mind that John Baird is a party-state bullshitter. When he gets called on it, to his face, he squirms.

And never forget that he gets his marching orders from the top of his party's unitary command.

The parliamentary battle of the NSDAP had the single purpose of destroying the parliamentary system from within through its own methods. It was necessary above all to make formal use of the possibilities of the party-state system but to refuse real cooperation and thereby to render the parliamentary system, which is by nature dependent upon the responsible cooperation of the opposition, incapable of action.

Ernst Rudolf Huber (witness)
From the Chief Counsel for the Prosecution of Axis Criminality
Volume I, Chapter VII
1946

One couldn't make that comparison unless it existed.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008

A parliament of potty mouths



"I agree that decorum has gone down somewhat,"admitted Speaker of the House Peter Millikin, in what must be described as an underunderstatement.

"We want to be very serious," pledged Jay Hill, the new Conservative House leader who took over the position from Peter Van Loan, famous, along with his compatriot Pierre Poilievre, for his fondness for using sign language in the House.

Gone will be the parliamentary practise of responding to the opposing party's arguments by making an L on one's forehead with thumb and forefinger. Never again will Con MP Royal Galipeau, himself a contender for Speaker of the House up till a couple of hours ago, storm the Liberal backbenches to grapple with Lib MP David McGuinty.

Personally I think this proposed civility thing is a big mistake.
Arm the buggers, I say! Break out the parliamentary catapaults! Build a moat in the aisle and fill it with green jello. I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
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Picture ripped off from Ottawonk

Friday, May 11, 2007

Benoit: I don't need no stinkin' rules of order


Lord Kitchener's Own posted on this CanWest article detailing the depths to which Conservative MPs are willing to sink to circumvent parliamentary procedure. As he says, it's difficult to come up with anything humourous or ironic about it. (All emphasis mine)
The firestorm erupted within minutes of testimony by University of Alberta professor Gordon Laxer that Canadians will be left “to freeze in the dark” if the government forges ahead with plans to integrate energy supplies across North America.

He was testifying on behalf of the Alberta-based Parkland Institute about concerns about the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), a 2005 accord by the U.S., Canada and Mexico to streamline economic and security rules across the continent. The deal, which calls North American “energy security” a priority, commits Canada to ensuring American energy supplies even though Canada itself — unlike most industrialized nations — has no national plan or reserves to protect its own supplies, he argued.

At that point, Tory MP Leon Benoit, chair of the Commons Standing Committee on International Trade which was holding the SPP hearings, ordered Laxer to halt his testimony, saying it was not relevant.

Opposition MPs called for, and won, a vote to overrule Benoit’s ruling.

Benoit then threw down his pen, declaring, “This meeting is adjourned,” and stormed out, followed by three of the panel’s four Conservative members.

The remaining members voted to finish the meeting, with the Liberal vice-chair presiding.

Benoit’s actions are virtually unprecedented, observers say; at press time, parliamentary procedure experts still hadn’t figured out whether he had the right to adjourn the meeting unilaterally. Benoit did not respond to calls for comment.

Hmmm... a few points need to be made here.

If someone has been invited to testify it is contingent on the committee to determine the relevance of the testimony after it is complete. In a parliamentary committee the chair sets the agenda, but the majority of members will determine the relevance of any testimony or evidence submitted for consideration. The chair does not possess the power to halt testimony unless a majority of committee members agree.

Parliamentary procedure experts can pore all over Benoit's actions all they want. The optics of his behaviour alone speaks volumes and demonstrates either a lack of competence as a committee chairman or an intentional attempt to stifle free and open debate. Either way, Benoit should be destooled.

As for the act of adjournment itself, "unprecedented" is a mild description of Benoit's behaviour. Unless something has changed in parliamentary procedures used by Canada's parliament, the chair cannot unilaterally adjourn a meeting. In fact, the chair cannot make a motion for adjournment. At best the chair can determine the date and time of the next meeting and call for a motion to adjourn and the committee votes on the motion.

What Benoit did is a demonstration of how the Conservatives view the democratic parliamentary process. Benoit didn't like what he was hearing from Gordon Laxer and attempted to halt his statement, a contravention of chapter 20 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice. When he was overruled by the majority of the committee, who wished to hear Laxer's testimony, he again presumed to dispense with the parliamentary process by simply bringing the committee's work to an abrupt end, without calling for adjournment or setting the time and date of the next meeting.

If anything though, this should scare the hell out of Canadians. Benoit's behaviour is simply an extension of the performance we witness in Harper, who throws a temper tantrum when he doesn't get his way. That would be bad enough if it didn't cast a light on a broader picture.

If this is the way the Conservatives behave when they are in a minority position, what can we expect if they ever form a majority?

Benoit took a position which can only be described as a mixing of the roles of government and parliament. His chairmanship of a committee may be established by virtue of being in government but his role belongs to parliament and in parliament decisions rest with the majority. Benoit, and some of his fellow travelers, were unable to live with that centuries old tenet of common law.

Imagine how the Conservatives would corrupt the process if they had a majority.

It's another maneuver taken from the US Republican playbook. If the Harperites ever achieve a majority you can expect debate and dissent to be completely and utterly stifled. They're trying it with a minority and with a majority it would be a sure bet. We would be faced with the Bonanno Rules of Order.

And if Benoit doesn't like the reference, there's only one thing to say to him: If you're going to act like a thug, I'm going to compare you to a thug.